Joel Makower is a writer, speaker, and strategist on clean technology and green business. He was in Copenhagen for the climate summit and joined me on KTRS/St. Louis to report on it.

He explained how complex the climate change issue is, what the attendees hoped to accomplish and what changes they might make in global policy, and how some nations were only there to look after their own self-interests. We also discussed how real environmental change is more likely to come from businesses embracing green technology because it props up their bottom line.

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Joel is the author of “Strategies For The Green Economy” and editor/publisher of GreenBiz.com. You can also read his blog here.